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gotcha... makes sense. I just have draft brain right now and I'm a degenerate lol.
the thought was to wait until after the bulk of memorial day weekend so as to not stall out for a couple days, but I suppose there is no harm in it.
Trade: DEN-SAC
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10-23-2023, 21:17
(This post was last modified: 10-23-2023, 21:21 by fauxcreative.)
It was bugging me b/c I wanted the data. There's so many trades in here your brain just kind of "assumes" what market is at some point, but I wanted to be sure I wasn't just talking to stand-up for my side of the deal. So, I went back through and glanced at trades made between the 2022 off-season and now, so about 1.5-years. There's not a lot of one-for-one comparisons, but here's some examples of trades where a RD1 was a decent part of the return, and the side w/o the pick was largely a single player.
Jrue Holiday (3-years left on deal, 19M/year) for Rui Hachimura, RD1-2023 (LAC) Derrick White (3-years left on deal, 8.4M/year) for RD1-2023 (CLE) + Goga Jimmy Butler (2-years left on deal, 16M/year) for Christian Wood (8.0 x3), RD1-2023 (LAL), RD2 x2 Collin Sexton (3-years left on deal, 13.2M/year + cash coverage) for RD1-2023 (TOR), Kai Jones Jusuf Nurkic (4-years left on deal, 13.6M/year) + 1.23 for picks 1.11 and 1.20 Those trades above are all for varying qualities of players, at varying ages, but the important thing to note is that (1) they're all on multi-year contracts, (2) they're all solidly younger than LeBron's 38+ this year, and (3) they're all for solidly less than LeBron's $21M extension cost he's due right now except for Jrue. The closest 1-1 deal is actually from KTR and it got accepted a month or so ago: Nikola Vucevic ($25.5M, last year of deal, fully paid) for RD1-2024 (Phoenix) That PHX pick projected to be in the 25-30 range b/c that team is damn good, and Vuc/Bron are both somewhere in the 25-50 range for single-season value depending on games played, team build, etc. given that LeBron's kind of a lock to not play the full 82 at this point (50+ is my hope for him to be honest), which is baked in to his valuation. I totally get wanting to make sure that a League Owned team gets the best bang for their buck, that there's no funny business, etc. etc. so I tried to stick to as close to what I felt was market for LeBron when I made the offer. Based on the trades I found above, I mean, those are all in the same general ballpark/value range to me right? And nobody said anything about them. Like if Laim asked me to add Vukcevic from my G-League to the RD1, I don't know, I probably say no b/c I don't think it's necessary you know? That gets into how people value expiring players with no likelihood of extending them. It's an eye-of-the-beholder/acquiror, and sometimes you have to take what you can get as a rebuilder. So maybe it seems a little light to others for LBJ (I don't thing anyone's disputing Allen for Murphy+Dieng is fine), and there are other teams that may prefer the Murphy+Dieng+Picks side b/c Murphy's pretty damn good. Generally when that happens to me, it's a "reasonable minds could agree/disagree thing" and the trade is probably fine. That team was clearly ripe for a rebuild/to move on from LeBron, so all it would've taken is a DM to Laim at any time in the past 1-2 months, etc. Just my two cents with actual data. I'm fine with whatever Laim decides on it. |
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Trade: DEN-SAC - by fauxcreative - 10-22-2023, 21:51
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by Laimbeer40 - 10-22-2023, 23:48
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by thepetis - 10-23-2023, 02:15
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by Laimbeer40 - 10-23-2023, 03:07
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by fauxcreative - 10-23-2023, 03:13
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by OUDAN - 10-23-2023, 13:36
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by Laimbeer40 - 10-23-2023, 13:48
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by TMurphy3 - 10-23-2023, 14:05
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by TMurphy3 - 10-23-2023, 14:16
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by fauxcreative - 10-23-2023, 14:18
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by fauxcreative - 10-23-2023, 14:18
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by OUDAN - 10-23-2023, 14:28
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by JMAC - 10-23-2023, 16:42
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by Laimbeer40 - 10-23-2023, 19:59
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by fauxcreative - 10-23-2023, 21:17
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by thepetis - 10-24-2023, 01:13
RE: Trade: DEN-SAC - by fauxcreative - 10-24-2023, 01:21
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