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Change to trading process - blurred - 01-31-2024
The TL;DR – to allow GMs once trades are posted and accepted on the forum to propose/accept them in Fantrax themselves, with a 48+ hour transaction time (eg a trade accepted on Tuesday lunchtime would be reflected in Friday’s lineups). This still provides transparency and the chance for GMs to vote and veto if necessary, but as 98%+ of trades go through without issue this will free up time for admins from having to manually process every trade.
The detail:
The aim of this would be to free up a small amount of time from admins in having to process trades manually, particularly at busy times of the year such as the opening of trading in January/February, and around the trade deadline, while still allowing for admins to manually process trades, eg: during the draft when someone trades up/down a pick, or where there was a contingent move (eg: Player A is traded from Team 1 to Team 2, and then flipped from Team 2 to Team 3 in another deal before the 48+ hours had elapsed and they had landed on their Fantrax roster).
This proposal is based on the experience that somewhere in the region of 98% of trades go through without veto, which means admins would only need to intervene on the edge cases rather than the dozens of run-of-the-mill transactions.
The proposed change to the trading rules would mean:
1 - Team A posts the terms of the trade on the forum.
2 - Team B posts agreement to the trade, and at that point either team can propose the trade in Fantrax for acceptance.
3 – There would be no change to the voting ratio on approvals to vetoes, and trades would still need to be voted on by GMs - this keeps members active in the league/on the forum, and keeps the onus on everyone for ensuring fairness and transparency in trade dealings and to flag up any issues.
4 - Trades in Fantrax have a 48+ hour window before being processed - eg: a trade accepted on Fantrax on Tuesday lunchtime would take effect from Friday's lineup period.
5 - If there is sufficient pushback on a trade, insufficient voting, or the commissioners feel the need to step in, then an admin can postpone it in Fantrax, pending a clarification/rebalancing of the trade. Any reworked trade would set the process back to step one, and the 48+ hour clock would begin again.
Questions/discussion can follow below.
RE: Change to trading process - MasterShonuff - 01-31-2024
So in the end the fantrax administrator would still have to "process" the trade for the players to go onto their new teams? (They just don't have to "set up" the trade in Fantrax?)
RE: Change to trading process - tomviolence - 01-31-2024
reads to me like it would automatically go through on fantrax, so would only need to be updated on the doc at that point.
RE: Change to trading process - MasterShonuff - 01-31-2024
(01-31-2024, 16:17)tomviolence Wrote: reads to me like it would automatically go through on fantrax, so would only need to be updated on the doc at that point.So its just on the accountability of the owners to not put these players in your lineups until 48 hours clear?
RE: Change to trading process - blurred - 01-31-2024
No. Some leagues run their whole vote/veto process through Fantrax, and so there is flexibility in their settings to only process trades after x amount of time, so it would show as a pending trade to the rest of the league until the time had elapsed. It removes any requirement for admin input when processing trades, unless we have to step in because of a veto/vote issue on the forum.
RE: Change to trading process - tomviolence - 01-31-2024
yeah exactly. I may look at this for NP long term too
RE: Change to trading process - blurred - 01-31-2024
I'd just add that keeping the forum post part of the proposal is because some deals may look awfully wonky on Fantrax as strict player-for-player swaps, but can be explained away by salary payment considerations, and so we would need the forum for that element.
RE: Change to trading process - Fiorious - 02-01-2024
Agree with blurred, with how deep the league is sometimes the justification is needed.
RE: Change to trading process - JuicyJ - 02-02-2024
Good with this
RE: Change to trading process - blurred - 02-15-2024
The vote is passed. I will update the rules, and propose that we adopt the new rules from opening day onwards.